Aug 06 2019 50 mins 2
Justin and Jon are joined by Jason Fried to talk about: The philosophy behind their new book Shape Up. Does Basecamp's approach to 6-week cycles differ for smaller teams? "Long projects destroy morale. When things don't ship, you get frustrated." – Jason Fried Why projects ship late (it's human nature). Why work is like a hill. How they make product decisions at Basecamp. How do you know what you should work on next? Why they don't believe in backlogs. "That feeling of 'there's nothing to do, but there's everything to do' shouldn't be happening." – Jason Fried "You need a system at some point. When you have two people, you can hack your way to anything. But as soon as you grow, you'll need a system." – Jason Fried "What we have is not a perfect system. And even if it was, we don't execute these things perfectly." – Jason Fried ★ Thanks to our sponsors: ProfitWell's podcast Protect the Hustle has a new season! New sponsor: ActiveCampaign! Get the world's most advanced marketing & sales automation platform. Use the code activecampaign.com/buildyoursaas and get two months free + 2 free One-on-Ones! Show notes: Jon's launch announcement tweet (from 2018). Read Basecamp's new book Shape Up. Jason Fried commented on this Linkedin post. Hill charts. Listen to Rework Podcast's "Shape Up Roundtable." Derek Sivers' new article: My old clothes don't fit You can reply to this podcast here: Leave a comment on Breaker, the podcast app for iPhone. Otherwise, get us on Twitter: @transistorfm or email us: [email protected] Thanks to our monthly supporters: Ben from narrowr.com Noah Prail David Colgan Robert Simplicio Colin Gray alitu.com Josh Smith Ivan Curkovic Brian Rhea (Pronounced “Ray”) Miguel Piedrafita Shane Smith Austin Loveless Simon Bennett Corey Haines Michael Sitver Paul Jarvis and Jack Ellis Dan Buda danbuda.com Darby Frey Samori Augusto Dave Young Brad from Canada Sammy Schuckert Dan Ericson Mike Walker Adam DuVander Dave Giunta (JOOnta) Kyle Fox GetRewardful.com ProfitWell ActiveCampaign ProfitWell.com GetRewardful.com ★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★
