Nov 08 2020 24 mins 4
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FULL EPISODE TRANSCRIPT
Adam: (00:05)
Welcome back for episode 97 of Count Me iIn, IMA's podcast about all things affecting the accounting and finance world. I'm your host, Adam Larson, and I'm happy to bring you our latest episode on the work environment and personal development, Eli Amdur, Career and Executive coach, Journalist, and Keynote Speaker, joined my cohost Mitch to talk about recent business decisions, what they've meant to those in the workforce and what individuals can do to best prepare themselves for the future. I'm sure you will enjoy this conversation. So let's go listen.
Mitch: (00:34)
What is your perspective on the current business environment and how would you rate businesses in their response to the COVID-19 pandemic?
Eli: (00:51)
Mitch, good question. First, let me say, thanks for inviting me here. I'm happy to be with you and your membership. Current business environment, for sure, it's unlike any we've ever experienced. It's, it's being, it's being influenced by as many serious, conditions as has ever existed together at one time in an economic meltdown, massive job losses, COVID-19 social and racial and gender unrest. We're doing, we're experiencing as much as we've ever experienced before. What I'm afraid of is knee jerk reactions on the parts of employers, entire industries, even government agencies, but it's, it's natural, but it's something that I think is way overboard. For instance, the thing about working remote. Well, we didn't have a choice on that. We understand that. And having technology that permits us to do it is a pretty awesome thing, but companies already having said that we're going to work remote until 2022. They're getting out of lease deals, they're selling office space. I think they're making decisions that one day soon, they're going to be kind of sorry, they've made as, as suddenly, and as, I should say thoughtlessly as they have made them. I don't think enough thought has gone into it.
Mitch: (02:37)
Well, what are the potential outcomes of these decisions? You know, it's something you're afraid of. It. It might be a little thoughtlessness, but you know, as far as businesses and their sustainability longevity, why might these decisions may not be the best ones for the business?
Eli: (02:52)
That's a, that's a great question, and I think it's because we're reacting to things we can see immediately. We're not holding off on our decisions. You know, I'm very fond of saying, and I've said this for many years, going way, way back to like corporate leadership roles. That if we thought about the consequences of our decisions before we made them, we would make better decisions. So yeah, COVID hits and we got to get everybody out of each other's ways. Otherwise the transmission of the disease will be increasing, which it is now anyway, as you know, but the things we can't see are things that have now become a little clearer to a lot of people, both workers and leaders, and decision-makers in organizations. And that is that we're missing the interpersonal connections that we so very much we rely on and enjoy during our work days and our careers. We are social creatures. We rely on belonging to groups. In human history, those groups have taken all kinds of shapes, like a corporate division of religion, a fan club, a, a community we need that. It is one of the most basic of all human needs. Abraham Maslow pointed that asked to us very well. Once we get done with our physiological needs, for food, clothing, and shelter and things like that, and our longer term security needs the most basic need of all his belongings. We're missing that, people are lonely. They don't like being alone. They want to be part of a team where somebody slapped somebody on the back or shakes hands and nods approval in a conference room. And those, the lack of those things tend to decrease the effectiveness and the efficiency of performance, but not, not enough companies are realizing that yet. There's still an element of their technology and their ability to work remotely.
Mitch: (05:00)
Now, obviously there are circumstances that are preventing businesses from reopening and people being able to gather in the manner that you're discussing. there are going to obviously be those who have their concerns going forward. Long-term so what can businesses do? How can businesses accommodate the needs of the human being of their employees, keeping in mind their safety, most importantly, but also being able to offer this human interaction and this gathering so that they may be able to feel slightly more accomplished and, and achieve all the benefits that you previously mentioned.
Eli: (05:37)
Well, let me answer that two ways in the very, very short term, nothing. We've got to continue doing what we're doing, because we don't have a way to prevent this disease, and we don't have a way to treat this disease. And with the spikes that are going on predominantly in the United States, more than any other country, now we're headed into the third wave and winter time, it's, it's serious business. We're going to have to sacrifice something and that's our belongingness, our togetherness, our interaction. So in the short term, until there is a vaccine that is safe, effective, and plentiful, because we don't know if it's going to be a one time, or if you have to do a second booster, we don't know that any of that yet. Until that time, there's just very little we can do other than continue to reach out remotely as much as we possibly can, but go longer term, and I can't tell you exactly what that long return is. It's going to be six months from now. Is it going to be eight months? Don't know, but I can tell you that there's, there are indications that companies have already realized this. Recent news has shown that in the world of big tech and I referred to the big four, which is Google, Amazon, Facebook, and, Microsoft have taken up new leases on a couple of million square feet of office space in Manhattan. So they apparently have given this some thought and Facebook is a company, but that early on in this pandemic said that they have that their employees could work remote until 2021 and 2022, but they're buying up office space. I think they know what's going on. Maybe they're getting good deals because of the situation, but, they're going to be calling employees back into work, and I think they understand the thing about the consequences of their decisions. And so I think what companies can do is to let their employees know and their vendors and their customers as well, we're not running away, we're not going to be a one 800 don't bother me.com type of business. but that they are indeed intending to get back to working closely together and to strengthen the interpersonal bonds. If I were to advise corporations and not just big tech, but all corporations, that's exactly where I would go.
Mitch: (08:11)
Now, how about logistically more specific to our audience? Right? We work for accounting and finance professionals at large, you know, their role was already changing prior to this pandemic. And then you add the remote aspect to everything, you know, their jobs have shifted. What can you recommend as far as, you know, accounting and finance professionals, accounting and finance organizations to, you know, best again, accommodate these needs while maintaining the safety of their e...
