Another international meeting aimed at addressing plastic pollution has ended without an agreement. INC-5, held in South Korea, was expected to make significant progress toward a global plastics treaty. Instead, we heard familiar calls for urgency and action—echoes of the recent COP29 climate summit. But are these urgent messages losing their impact? In this episod, we explore why we should reshape the climate narrative with a message of hope with Professor Wang Binbin of Peking University. She is also the Associate Dean of Institute of Carbon Neutrality at Peking University. Also, you can subscribe to our newsletter: https://climatewffei.substack.com/