Karen Mahlab AM is one of Australia’s most prominent community advocates. As the force behind Pro Bono Australia, Karen gave voice to a raft of social and environmental movements for over 20 years. As a proponent of public interest journalism, she remains at the forefront of civic life, even as she contemplates her next move. This episode was recorded in the wake of Australia’s Voice to Parliament referendum and in the immediate aftermath of Hamas’ attack on Israel. It begins with Karen reflecting on the impact of both events. Karen also reflects on her career and, via her new tattoo, explains how she feels about the next stage of her life.