The Importance of Having Hard Conversations


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Jun 11 2020 103 mins   4

“We can be Spiritual and angry at the same time.

We can be Spiritual and take action at the same time.”

In the interview today, I am talking with a podcast listener, June. Divya is also back to co-host with me! June tells us how, as a Black woman, she is aware that when she is with white women, she is aware that they are filtering what they are saying to her. June shares what it’s like to be in a bi-racial relationship in the Midwest. We talk about implicit bias, actions you can take to support the Black community, Spiritual bypassing, and the importance of having difficult conversations.

I am learning so much through these beautiful women, and through all of you! Together, I know we can evolve, grow, and change to make a better future. We need to acknowledge the racist problems that exist in our communities rather than sweep it under the rug. These are Global issues causing pain for so many. In order for healing to begin in the Black community, we must say yes, there is a problem. I see it. We need to acknowledge we played a role in this problem with our silence and with our passiveness. We have work to do, friends.

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Stephanie’s Resource List

Books:

  1. “How To Be Anti-Racist” by Ibram Kendi
  2. “So You Want to Talk About Race” by Ijeoma Oluo
  3. “White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Racial Divide” by Carol Anderson
  4. “Tears We Cannot Stop: A Sermon To White America” by Michael Eric Dyson
  5. “The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism” by Edward Baptist
  6. The Condemnation of Blackness“ by Khalil Gibran Muhammad
  7. “Me And White Supremacy: Combat Racism, Change the World, and Become a Good Ancestor” by Layla F. Saad
  8. “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard For White People To Talk About Racism” by Robin DiAngelo
  9. “Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice that Shapes What We See, Think, and Do” by Jennifer L. Eberhardt
  10. “White Kids: Growing Up with Privilege in a Racially Divided America” by Margaret A. Hagerman
  11. ”The Color of Law” by Richard Rothstein
  12. I’m Still Here by Austin Channing Brown

Buy Black Apps and Websites:

We Buy Black: https://webuyblack.com/

Black wall Street: https://officialblackwallstreet.com/directory/

Buy Black: https://buyblackkc.org/

Organizations:

https://eji.org/

https://blacklivesmatter.com/

https://www.poorpeoplescampaign.org/about/

Glossary:

Racial Equity Tools:https://www.racialequitytools.org/glossary

Things to watch:

The First Time I Realized I was Black

https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2017/02/us/first-time-i-realized-i-was-black/

I am still here

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/defininggrace/art-of-the-sermon/e/54526347

White Awake: An honest look to what it means to be white

https://www.youtube.com/watch?reload=9&v=DNkE5kNnlDQ

13

https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741

Articles:

White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack Peggy McIntosh

http://convention.myacpa.org/houston2018/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf

Answering White People’s Most Commonly Asked Questions about the Black Lives Matter Movement https://thebolditalic.com/where-do-i-donate-why-is-the-uprising-violent-should-i-go-protest-5cefeac37ef9

The Use Of Anger: Woman Responding To Racism by Audre Lorde 1981

https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/speeches-african-american-history/1981-audre-lorde-uses-anger-women-responding-racism/

Why We Need To Talk About White Privilege In Art Education

https://canadianart.ca/news/white-privilege-in-arts-education/

100 RACE-CONSCIOUS THINGS YOU CAN SAY TO YOUR CHILD TO ADVANCE RACIAL JUSTICE: http://www.raceconscious.org/2016/06/100-race-conscious-things-to-say-to-your-child-to-advance-racial-justice/

“America’s Racial Contract Is Killing Us” by Adam Serwer | Atlantic (May 8, 2020)

Beyond the Streets https://issuu.com/nlc.sf.2014/docs/beyondthestreets_final

White Debt https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/06/magazine/white-debt.html

Project 1619 https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/08/14/magazine/1619-america-slavery.html

Podcasts:

1.Race Forward

https://www.raceforward.org/media/podcast/momentum-race-forward-podcast

  1. Speaking of Racism https://speakingofracism.podbean.com/

  1. Lets Talk about Whiteness

https://onbeing.org/programs/eula-biss-lets-talk-about-whiteness-sep2018/

  1. THE C.O.W.S.https://www.talkshoe.com/show/thecows

  1. Black History Year https://pushblack.simplecast.com/

  1. Project 1619

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/1619/id1476928106

  1. White Lies https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510343/white-lies