This podcast is a recording of a talk delivered by Duncan Reyburn at (a rather noisy) Café Riche in Pretoria on the question: "How can imagination awaken us to reality?" The question provides a way to cover a few things addressed in Duncan's book, "Seeing Things as They Are: G. K. Chesterton and the Drama of Meaning" (Cascade, 2016). The book can be found here: http://wipfandstock.com/seeing-things-as-they-are.html and wherever else good books are sold. If you want to get in touch with Duncan with questions and ideas around Unorthodoxy, you can email him at [email protected]. You can also support the Unorthodoxy podcast at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=4508571