This excerpt was clipped from a discussion of Safron and DeYoung 2020 “Integrating Cybernetic Big Five Theory with the Free Energy Principle: A new strategy for modeling personalities as complex systems" Complete live stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG2gOoX4XdA&list=PLNm0u2n1Iwdoe-4Be7frRpvBQ0q7yhnBV&index=127