Fixing Faxes

Show Notes

Jonathan and Angela asked for questions and listeners submitted all sorts of questions ranging from leadership, entrepreneurship, podcasting, and life. The questions were tough, amazing and required some digging deep to answer; along with many laughs.

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Angela Hapke - @angelahapke - https://www.clinnect.ca

Jonathan Bowers - @thejonotron - https://www.twostoryrobot.com

Credits

Produced by Jonathan Bowers and Angela Hapke

Music by Andrew Codeman (CC BY 3.0)

Transcript

Jonathan: [00:00:00] I think your renos have created a slight echo.

Angela: [00:00:02] Are you

Jonathan: [00:00:03] it's just, it's just slight. It's fine. We'll leave it in. Cause I, I don't want to deal with it right now.

Angela: [00:00:08] We could put like a blanket over my head or something?

Jonathan: [00:00:11] that's how podcasters do it.

They go in closets because of all the clothing and then crawl under a blanket. I'm not doing that because I'm not bringing this whole desk into a closet.

Angela: [00:00:21] maybe I need like, a blanket tent to go over top of me.

Intro [00:00:26]

You are listening to Fixing Faxes, a podcast on the journey of building a digital health startup with your hosts, myself, Angela Hapke, and...

Jonathan: [00:00:36] I'm Jonathan Bowers and this is our Q and A show. We've got questions from listeners and we're going to answer them. I'm very excited. Yeah. I'm a little disappointed that no one asked, like really obscure, odd, weird questions about. You know about things that are unrelated to podcasting or startups.

Cause we've, we, you know, we're, we're deeper people than just this,

Angela: [00:01:01] barely. Yes, no, no, we are. Yeah.

Jonathan: [00:01:05] Uh,

Angela: [00:01:06] I there's so many, I mean, these questions are wonderful and they're beautiful and they're going to get into some, some interesting, things here, but, yeah, there's no like wild or wacky questions for us. So,

Jonathan: [00:01:18] and I apologize that my first response to getting questions was to criticize the quality that criticized the criticize, the questions I just realized that I'm kind of a poopoo.

Angela: [00:01:28] you did you poo-pooed on them? I, yes. Thank you. Let's do it.

Kaileen, on leadership [00:01:34]

let's start with Kaileen because Kaileen jumped on this and I'm so proud of her for like, Jumping on it and putting it out there. So let's start with her. Yay. Yay. Kaileen and, let's jump into the leadership questions that she had. Okay.

So she asked a few questions around leadership and she said that she'd love to hear both of us answer these questions. And the first one was what is a piece of leadership advice you think everyone should know? I know? Right? Just like

Jonathan: [00:02:11] Just

Angela: [00:02:11] head first, right into the deep end. Yes.

Jonathan: [00:02:14] Ah, I don't know.

Angela: [00:02:18] Kaileen authenticity.

Um, we can, we can read all the leadership books that we want to, and we can, try and emulate all these wonderful, amazing examples of people out there. But at the end of the day, being authentically yourself is what I would just tell anybody. If you found yourself in a place where you're in a leadership position in your life, you're, you're doing what we do.

We probably done something, right. So I would say authenticity.

Jonathan: [00:02:47] I think there's a temptation to put on a facade, which does have, which does have its place. Uh, there is a, there's a place for that, but I think generally, yeah, being authentic, Yeah. And just being open, honest and maybe a little bit more vulnerable

Angela: [00:03:03] Yes, please, please. We need more leadership with vulnerability, please. Can we do that? Yes. Okay. Her second question is what is a common myth about leadership you think we all need to let go of? You go first on this one.

Jonathan: [00:03:20] Uh, Oh my goodness. So I haven't prepared for any, I haven't read any of these questions. I just copied and pasted these in, I haven't had time to think about them. a common myth. I don't know what, Ooh. I don't know.

Angela: [00:03:33] Do you want me to go?

Jonathan: [00:03:34] Yeah, I'm struggling. I'm struggling to answer these because I don't, I don't know. Maybe cause I don't read enough books, uh, to know like what are some of the

Angela: [00:03:43] I just don't read enough books, period. Um,

I think a common myth about leadership, but it's also not just about leadership. I think it's about, especially as startup, culture in general is this hustle culture that we have created. And we think being busy is the ultimate, Showcase of success.

It's not at all. It's I think it's quite the opposite. Actually. I think having a lot of room and flexibility in your day, it makes, makes you a much better leader than burning yourself out.

Jonathan: [00:04:23] Yeah, I'm I'm, I'm not gonna offer anything different than that. I'll just, I'll just agree with that. Like, I think that's totally true. even, uh, like Justin, Justin Jackson, he asked a question, we'll get to that, but he shared his calendar

Angela: [00:04:36] I saw that.

Jonathan: [00:04:37] a blank canvas with like two meetings in it.

And I think part of that is because his business partner is away on holidays, but, um, regardless, he's still like, he's still, you know, that's, that's, his goal is to maintain that. And I, I, you know, I really like that. I look at my calendar right now and it is, it has very few holes in it

Angela: [00:04:55] Oh, no.

Jonathan: [00:04:56] stressful.

but that's, I mean, that's just a personal thing. Like, like, I don't know that that's,

Angela: [00:05:02] But isn't that what leadership is like? I mean, leadership is so personal, right? Yeah.

Jonathan: [00:05:07] Yep. So yeah, I would agree. don't hustle so hard.

Angela: [00:05:09] Don't. Slow down. Take a breath free up your calendar.

Jonathan: [00:05:14] this idea that Kaileen and I are kind of batting around a little bit around, taking some of the lessons we learned from endurance training and applying it to, to work in life and things like that. And we we've all, we always say like this isn't a sprint. It's more like a marathon.

And I think putting in the measures and practices that allow you to sustain a pace over the long-term is, I think what will get you there? Not, not sprinting. Cause you can't, you just can't, you can't sprint in this. You're just going to burn out.

Angela: [00:05:45] no, I totally agree. Okay. Like that. Okay. Jonat...