The Trump-Biden debate was a disaster.
How do we change the formats for future debates to work? And what is the goal? Timers, buttons and buzzers to silence arguments? And how should it be hosted?
The debates have always been TV shows, but if they are brawls no one will benefit from tuning in.
On Back Story Dana Lewis talks to John Donvan, a former White House reporter who now hosts debates across the U.S. and has hosted close to 200 debates.