Talking About Clothes with Holly Chayes

Nov 30 2020 13 mins 25

Talking About Clothes with Holly Chayes is a seasonal podcast, where I talk about clothes with people who wear them. Regardless of how fashionable or stylish we think we are (or are not), we all wear clothes. In this podcast, we explore the depths of some of the most intimate times in our lives without shame or guilt. Each season focuses on a theme, where guests share their personal perspective on that particular topic.

Show Up – Wrapping The Self Made Wardrobe Revisited
Jun 15 2020 16 mins  
This is the final episode of season three of Talking About Clothes. In it, I talk about how the hardest part of this whole year-long project was showing up everyday and doing the thing I showed up to do. And also, how after a transformative year (which this year of The Self-Made Wardrobe Project certainly was), there’s no going back to the way things were before. That year changed how I related to my clothes in fundamental ways. Thank you for revisiting this project with me, now I hope you’ll take some time to explore these remarkable Black creators and thinkers working in clothing-related fields. Because Black lives matter. And these creators are doing incredible things. In Style, Handmade Style & Sewing Brittany Diego is a celebrity stylist and fashion consultant. She also hosts the Fashion School Dropout Podcast. Website: Instagram: @brittanydiego Podcast: Fashion School Dropout Stephanie Thomas, the founder and CEO of Cur8able, is a disability fashion stylist, speaker, and consultant. Website: Podcast: Cur8able the Podcast Instagram: @disabilityfashionstylist Jasika Nicole, is an actress and also makes her entire wardrobe. Website: Instagram: @jasikaistrycurious Marcy Harriell, as she says in her IG bio, is an actor, singer, sewist, and merrymaker. Website: Instagram: @marcyharriell Black Girls Sew™ is “committed to making an impact on the lives of women and youth through education in sewing, design and entrepreneurship.” Instagram: @blackgirlssew In Clothing Sustainability Dominique Drakeford, Founder of MelaninASS, and Co-Founder of Sustainable Brooklyn. In her own words, she “work[s] at the intersections of sustainability and style to heal our relationship to the Earth and spark equitable change for economic wellbeing.” Website: Instagram: @dominiquedrakeford Aja Barber is a a writer and fashion consultant focusing on race, intersectional feminism, and fashion. Instagram: @ajabarber Patreon: In Fashion & History Cheyney McKnight, founder and owner of Not Your Momma’s History, is a Historical Interpreter and Living Historian. Website: Youtube: NotYourMommasHistory Instagram: @NotYourMommasHistory Patreon: Dandy Wellington is a bandleader, entertainer, event producer, and creative consultant. #VintageStyleNOTVintageValues Website: Youtube: Dandy Wellington Instagram: @dandywellington Patreon: Additionally: Anti-Racism Training, Resources & People to Follow "Undoing Racism" by The People’s Institute for Survival and Beyond “Race Demystified" by Milagros Phillips Rachel Elizabeth Cargle a public academic, writer, and lecturer. Website: Twitter: @rachelcargle Instagram: @rachel.cargle Layla F. Saad is an "author, speaker & teacher on the topics of race, identity, leadership, personal transformation & social change." Website: Instagram: @laylafsaad The Conscious Kid: "Parenting and Education through a Critical Race Lens" Instagram: @theconsciouskid Patreon: Nupol Kiazolu, President Black Lives Matter Greater NY and Founder/CEO of Vote 2000. Instagram: @nupol_justice Twitter: @nupol_justice A document with dozens of additional resources. This document was compiled by Sarah Sophie Flicker & Alyssa Klein in May 2020: Learn more at

Let Your Body Adapt. It has clothing preferences just like you.
Apr 23 2020 5 mins  
I know I'm not the only one who makes snap judgments about my clothes. Especially when I first try a garment on that's not my usual cut or silhouette or style. That's what happened with one of the dresses I knit for this self made wardrobe project. It was a one piece hand knit, A-line, very colorful mini dress that was neither my normal colors, nor my normal silhouette nor my normal style, but ended up being one of the pieces that I love the most in this wardrobe and wore quite often and still wear today. So I guess one of the lessons from this dress is to not jump to conclusions about garments before you wear them a couple times. It's easy to forget that our bodies have preferences about what they wear. And often, so not always, those preferences are merely because that's what our bodies are familiar with. It's sort of like if you start working out your body is going to have opinions on it. And the same is true for whatever garment you're talking about. It doesn't have to be high waisted jeans or period corsets or turn of the 20th century undergarments, it's true for anything. If you're not used to wearing a suit, your body is going to take a while to get used to wearing a suit. If you're not used to wearing lounge-wear, your body's going to take a while to get used to wearing lounge-wear. So I think that when something's new, and it has to do with our physically feeling weird in the clothing and you want to play around with the style, maybe give it a couple tries, and see if you get used to it. Learn more at

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