Them Before Us #39 | Selective Reduction in IVF, Michigan Endorsing Surrogacy for Pay, and Surrogacy Baby Shower Protocol


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Mar 29 2024 36 mins   5

In this episode, we get a sneak peak into Katy's third book, a collaboration of experts on how every major political issue (energy, education, business) could be seen from the perspective of children's rights. Katy also gives us the rundown on her upcoming Rome trip for the Casablanca Declaration meeting.

Next we take on some questions from social media:

  • What are some of the differences in care and investment from non-related adults in a child's life compared to a biological parent?
  • What is "selective reduction" in IVF and what are the statistics?


(PLEASE NOTE: At min 17:25, Katy accidentally says "adoption" twice when she means to say "abortion." Selective Reduction is a term used to mean culling out or terminating human embryos, generally when multiple embryos implant and that was not intended.)


  • Is the Pro-Life movement going to hope the IVF controversy fades away since it's not a winning political issue?
  • Michigan is set to overturn it's ban on surrogacy for pay (commercial surrogacy). Why is commercial surrogacy so important to some?
  • What's the best way to handle being invited to a surrogacy baby shower?