The Abercrombie Guys: 4. The mysterious Mr Smith


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Who is the other Abercrombie guy, Matthew Smith? “Witty, strict and secretive” says a former colleague.

Papers reveal the influential role he had in the life of his partner, the former Abercrombie CEO Mike Jeffries.

A former staffer reveals how he frequently requested large sums of cash, sealed in white envelopes – what was it for?

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World of Secrets: Season 1 - The Abercrombie Guys is presented and investigated by Rianna Croxford
Series Producers: Ruth Evans and Alys Harte
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