Mar 16 2025 119 mins 22
Roko Mijic has been an active member of the LessWrong and AI safety community since 2008. He’s best known for “Roko’s Basilisk”, a thought experiment he posted on LessWrong that made Eliezer Yudkowsky freak out, and years later became the topic that helped Elon Musk get interested in Grimes.
His view on AI doom is that:* AI alignment is an easy problem* But the chaos and fighting from building superintelligence poses a high near-term existential risk* But humanity’s course without AI has an even higher near-term existential risk
While my own view is very different, I’m interested to learn more about Roko’s views and nail down our cruxes of disagreement.
00:00 Introducing Roko
03:33 Realizing that AI is the only thing that matters
06:51 Cyc: AI with “common sense”
15:15 Is alignment easy?
21:19 What’s Your P(Doom)™
25:14 Why civilization is doomed anyway
37:07 Roko’s AI nightmare scenario
47:00 AI risk mitigation
52:07 Market Incentives and AI Safety
57:13 Are RL and GANs good enough for superalignment?
01:00:54 If humans learned to be honest, why can’t AIs?
01:10:29 Is our test environment sufficiently similar to production?
01:23:56 AGI Timelines
01:26:35 Headroom above human intelligence
01:42:22 Roko’s Basilisk
01:54:01 Post-Debate Monologue
Show Notes
Roko’s Twitter: https://x.com/RokoMijic
Explanation of Roko’s Basilisk on LessWrong: https://www.lesswrong.com/w/rokos-basilisk
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