#116 - Exploring Platform Engineering feat. Camille Fournier // CTO @ Open Athena & Author @ O'Reilly Media


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Jan 22 2025 63 mins   8
Platform Teams and DevOps Optimization: Insights from Camille Fournier on platform engineering, career growth, and CTO strategies for success.

How do you create an effective platform team and optimize DevOps? Tobi interviews Camille Fournier about her career, technical insights, and best practices in platform engineering. Camille shares her journey from building her own computers and installing Linux in high school to becoming Managing Director at JPMorgan Chase and authoring influential books for engineers 📚.


👩‍💻 Camille's early fascination with computers and engineering, including building her own systems and installing Linux
📚 Authoring 'The Manager's Path' and 'Platform Engineering'
🌐 Understanding platform engineering and its evolution from DevOps
🚀 Challenges and strategies in platform engineering for larger companies
💡 Key advice for CTOs on starting and managing successful platform teams


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00:00 Welcome to the Alphalist Podcast
01:09 Introducing Camille Fournier
02:04 Camille's Journey into Engineering
04:37 The Fascination with Platform Engineering
07:43 The Evolution of DevOps and Platform Teams
14:48 Defining Platform Engineering
18:54 Building Effective Platforms in Diverse Organizations
30:35 The Importance of Trust in Platform Teams
33:33 The Role of Product Managers in Platform Products
34:12 Customer Focused Mindset in Platform Engineering
35:02 Measuring Success and Metrics in Platform Teams
35:53 Communicating Platform Success to Leadership
40:22 The Importance of Recognizing Engineering Work
44:31 Avoiding Overengineering in Platform Teams
48:19 Leadership Challenges in Platform Engineering
55:22 Advice for Aspiring Platform Engineers
59:42 Final Thoughts and Reflections