Host Tammy Haddad interviews Arati Prabhakar, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy. Prabhakar, the former head of DARPA and former NIST director under Clinton, discusses the importance of prioritizing American AI R&D, the need for transparency in AI used for public purposes, and why she’s disinterested in Sam Altman’s and others’ benchmarking of AI model capabilities to human intelligence. Having spent much of her career investing in world-class engineers and scientists to create new technologies and businesses, Prabhakar makes the case for why now is the time for the U.S. to double down on R&D.