Depthfinding: Making Sense of This Moment


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Apr 07 2025 41 mins  

In this miniseries, we’re exploring Depthfinding—an easy-to-grasp framework designed to help leaders and teams solve their gnarliest cross-functional challenges.


This week, Rodney and Sam zoom out. Because here’s the truth: the experience the last few months in the U.S.? It’s not an exception. It’s the environment we’re working in now.


From top-down compliance crackdowns to the resurrection of five-layer approval chains, we’re watching organizations double down on control just as the world demands more adaptability. Many teams feel stuck waiting for the storm to pass—without realizing that this is the weather now.


In this episode, we unpack what’s going on, what it means to lead when volatility is the default, and how to stop standing still and get moving.


Download the Depthfinding guide to get the template and examples of how to use it.

Want to learn more about Depthfinding? Head here: theready.com/depthfinding


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00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s a notable wildlife encounter you’ve had?

05:03 Understanding the moment we’re in

07:01 Efficiency in principle vs execution

11:31 Broad cuts that don’t acknowledge complexity

14:57 Midnight Zone churn

19:29 Big sky mandates that are a distraction from real work

28:18 Navigating the changing sky within your organization

34:11 Compounding crises are likely, plan for uncertainty

38:34 Parting thoughts

39:33 Wrap up: leave us a review and send us your questions!



This episode's theme music is Yaggadang by BG & Coyote Radio.

Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of Coupe Studios.