#231 ChatGPT and AI In Genetics with Daniel Uribe


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Apr 07 2023

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In this episode, we explore the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) and genetics, focusing on the potential impact of AI policies and regulations on the field. Why do our show notes look different this week? We decided to stay on brand for this episode and use AI (shoutout Podium) to write this content. 


We discuss the rise of AI chatbots like ChatGPT and BioGPT and their potential to transform healthcare and the genomics industry by assisting humans in interpreting vast amounts of genetic data. We delve into the importance of using AI-powered tools like ChatGPT to enhance our understanding of genomic data while maintaining privacy, and we discuss The Family Vault, which helps parents maintain ownership and control of their babies' genomic data. We also explore the challenges of implementing AI solutions in the clinical genomics industry, focusing on the importance of data provenance, quality, and privacy. Join us as we examine the future of data management in a hybrid world of centralized and decentralized databases, and learn about the exciting developments in the world of genetics.


Daniel Uribe is the father of a rare disease child. He is an expert in cybersecurity, data laws, non-fungible tokens (NFTs) and genomics. Daniel is the inventor of BioNFTs to tokenize revocable digital rights over human biosamples and derived biodata based on data privacy laws to enable ethical AI training in genomics and healthcare.


Top 10 Keypoints:

AI chatbots like ChatGPT and BioGPT are transforming healthcare and genomics by assisting humans in interpreting vast amounts of genetic data.

AI policies and regulations, such as the AI Bill of Rights, are being proposed to ensure responsible and ethical AI systems in healthcare and genomics.

Data used to train AI must be accurate, properly presented, and free from bias to avoid producing misleading or harmful results.

AI-powered tools like ChatGPT can help individuals explore their genomic data while maintaining privacy and control over their genetic information.

The Family Vault enables parents to maintain ownership and control of their babies' genomic data while collaborating with researchers in federal programs.

Data provenance, quality, and privacy are essential when implementing AI solutions in the clinical genomics industry.

A hybrid world of centralized and decentralized databases is emerging for data management in genomics, with a focus on digital hygiene and controlled access to sensitive genetic information.

Creating sub-datasets and limiting access to relevant data for specific purposes can help maintain control over genetic data while contributing to research and receiving personalized medical care.

Trustable, certified genetic testing is crucial as AI continues to play a larger role in healthcare and genomics.

The future of genetics will involve exciting developments in the understanding and interpretation of DNA data, with AI technologies playing a significant role in augmenting human knowledge and capabilities.


Episode Chapters:


AI in Genetics and Healthcare

The Best of Both Worlds

Centralization vs Decentralization in Digital Data

Exploring the Wonders of DNA


Chapter Summaries:


(0:00:02) - AI in Genetics and Healthcare (16 Minutes)

In this episode, we explore the role of artificial intelligence (AI) in genetics and the potential impact of AI policies and regulations on the field. Our guest, Daniel Uribe, is an expert in cybersecurity, data laws, NFTs, and genomics. He discusses the rise of AI chatbots like ChatGPT and BioGTP and their potential impact on healthcare and the genomics industry. AI has the potential to assist humans in interpreting large amounts of genetic data and augment human knowledge. However, the data used to train AI must be accurate, properly presented, and free from bias.


(0:15:47) - The Best of Both Worlds (10 Minutes)

In this portion of the conversation, we delve into the potential of AI-powered tools such as Chat GPT to enhance the understanding of our genomic data while maintaining privacy, enabling individuals to make informed decisions about their health. The Family Vault is discussed as a means to help parents maintain ownership and control of their babies' genomic data, while still collaborating with researchers in federal programs. The conversation also touches on the importance of decentralized data storage and privacy-preserving technologies for protecting sensitive genetic information from hackers and unauthorized access'


(0:26:03) - Centralization vs Decentralization in Digital Data (6 Minutes)

In this part of the discussion, we examine the future of data management in a hybrid world of centralized and decentralized databases, focusing on the importance of digital hygiene and controlled access to sensitive genetic information. By creating sub-datasets and limiting access to only the relevant data for specific purposes, individuals can maintain control over their genetic data while still contributing to research and receiving personalized medical care. We also touch on the potential implications of genetic data on insurance pricing and the importance of trustable, certified genetic testing as AI continues to play a larger role in the field'


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