This episode is part 1 of a riveting interview conducted by Randy Maugans and Emily Moyer from OffPlanet Radio in 2017. Elisa is an MK Ultra survivor and author of the alarming book, Our Life Beyond MK Ultra. She believes that major UFO conferences are used as lures for operatives to be re-programmed. What are the dangers to TIs, victims of mind control, and attendees in general, who attend these events?