Troubled Men Podcast

The singer, guitarist, and songwriter was a close associate of John Cale, providing the haunting vocals on “Only Time Will Tell” and touring with his group for several years. A Lower East Side luminary, she was the talent booker at Max’s Kansas City and door person at CBGB, palled around with Eno and Tom Verlaine, and toured Europe with Television. Deerfrance joins René in the Feral Zone with her bassist and Tav Falco’s Panther Burns alum Kai Eric to discuss the glory days of NYC punk, their new record, “The Sad Electronic Now,” and the current state of the world.

Topics include a double bill with Lorette Velvette, Memphis, Ross Johnson, dropping out of school, San Francisco in the late ’60s, vows of silence, MDMA, the Academy of Music, discovering Devo and the B-52s, ORK Records, No Wave bands, Jane Friedman, the post-Vietnam drug scene, an Alex Chilton story, Elaine Polk, Coney Island therapy, the Cramps, Miriam Linna, a U.N. childhood, public speaking, acting class, the dramatic pause, living with Jean-Michel Basquiat, an artist’s residency, currency smuggling, Dee Pop, booking agents, and much more.