Interview with Guy Standing followed by a talk by Charles Umney at the Kevin McMahon Memorial Lecture 2018 in SIPTU's Liberty Hall, Dublin. Guy Standing is a professor of development studies at the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, and author of The Precariat: The New Dangerous Class. Charles Umney is a lecturer at the University of Leeds. He teaches, researches and writes on the subjects of trade unionism, working conditions and employment policy across Europe, and has also published extensively on the topic of working life in live music. He is the author of Class Matters. Presented by Dan O' Neill. Interview by Scott Miller. Edited by Paddy Cole and Dan O'Neill.