See the full interview on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/s4IDqWGlWBU
In this thought-provoking conversation, legendary author and experiencer Whitley Strieber joins Kelly and Jay to discuss his groundbreaking new book, The Fourth Mind. Whitley explores the anatomy, intelligence, and consciousness of the beings he refers to as "the Visitors"—entities many associate with the Greys. He shares profound insights into their nature, their relationship to time, and why their presence on Earth may be more intertwined with us than we realize.
This episode takes a deep dive into:
🔹 How our brains struggle to process encounters with the unknown
🔹 The concept of the "fourth mind" and why it's missing in us but not in them
🔹 The Visitors' relationship to time and their desperate need to reconnect with the present moment
🔹 The risks and rewards of telepathic contact with non-human intelligence
🔹 The role of experiencers in shaping our collective understanding of these phenomena
Whitley also opens up about his lifelong experiences, the mysterious nature of the Visitors, and the deeper implications of our interactions with them. Prepare for a conversation that will challenge your perceptions of reality.
Mentioned in This Episode
📖 The Fourth Mind by Whitley Strieber –https://a.co/d/3Tj8G2i
📚 Them by Whitley Strieber – https://a.co/d/gqYziUQ
🎥 Cosmosis: UFOs & A New Reality – Watch at Cosmosis.Media
🎙️ Dreamland Podcast – Hosted by Whitley Strieber at UnknownCountry.com
💫 Stay Tuned for Part 2 Next Week!
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TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Introduction and Welcome
01:43 Introducing Whitley Strieber
06:16 Exploring the Fourth Mind Concept
09:57 The Visitors and Their Nature
14:34 Communion and Its Significance
19:57 Differences and Similarities with the Grays
28:01 The Role of the Visitors in Human History
33:07 Exploring Subjectivity and Objectivity in Phenomena
37:01 Meditation and Contact Work
38:44 The Nature of the Greys
40:28 Experiencing the Visitors
47:37 The Importance of Telepathy
01:00:16 The Urgency of the Fourth Mind
01:03:10 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
