S02E20 - Dr. Zach Groshell and Brendan Lee on coaching, culture and change


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Oct 26 2024 63 mins   13

This is the second conversation between Dr. Zach Groshell and Brendan Lee. For those that don’t know, Zach is the host of the Progressively Incorrect Podcast and also the author of Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching. In this episode, they take a deep dive into some of the key considerations that schools need to take when it comes to instructional coaching.



For this episode, Zach’s four items were:


  • Schools need an instructional focus for coaching to be successful.

  • Coaching is not only about teaching techniques, but also about fostering teacher judgement.

  • Relationships with teachers should not overshadow the goal of coaching

  • Coaching cycles and drop ins don’t need to take all that long



Brendan’s four points were:


  • Coaches need to shrink the change

  • Coaching should feel like a development process, rather than a judgemental one

  • Participants need to own the problem

  • Get granular with goal setting



Resources mentioned:


  • Steplab

  • Josh Goodrich - Responsive Coaching

  • Teach Like a Champion

  • Peps Mccrea

  • Jim Knight

  • Tom Sherrington and Oliver Caviglioli - Teaching Walkthrus


You can connect with Zach:


Twitter: @mrzachg


Podcast: Progressively Incorrect


Website: educationrickshaw.com



You can connect with Brendan:


Twitter: @learnwithmrlee


Facebook: @learningwithmrlee


Website: learnwithlee.net


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