Like a bicycle kick goal at minute 95, Sara finally completes editing on a much overdue interview with fellow Carraville author HeyJulien !
Sara and Julien talk about the world of football RPF (as in soccer, for all you Yankees); specifically the delightfully odd-couple rivals-to-lovers ship of English football pundits Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher. Other talking points scattered across the pitch include: football as war, derby days and football rivalry; the joys of local non-league football, the Bundesliga and fußballkultur; to switch POV, or not to switch POV; the annoying beauty of David Beckham; and of course, we discuss the tragically under-utilized in fic friendship of Paul Scholes and Gary Neville (or, Scholesy as the Kermit to Gary Neville’s Miss Piggy).
Join us, if you like!
Correction - at 03:27:40 we incorrectly refer to our wonderful fellow Carraville author as ‘player1604’-- their handle is player1064, which is a reference to Gary Neville’s England legacy number. Gary was the 1,064th player to play for England’s National Team.
Contact and Credits:
- Intro Theme: Kyle Laurin "Oasis Supersonic Theme" (Twitter: @cobrakylemusic)
- Tumblr: talkinfanfic.tumblr.com
- Instagram: @talkinfanfic
- Email: [email protected]
Time caps:
- 00:10:39 - Chelsea v Liverpool result in the Carabao Cup Final AND “Football and Butts”
- 00:13:17 minutes - Picking an English team as an outside fan, local rivalry in sport, and the mechanisms of tribalism
- 00:21:10 - Football pride as a substitute for national pride in Germany
- 00:22:57 - League structure in european football, the purity of the local club, financial doping, and German “fußballkultur”
- 00:32:57 - A late introduction to HeyJulien ! Julien’s earliest reading and writing memories.
- 00:36:36 - First encounter with fanfiction and Youtuber RPF
- 00:42:11 - Path into Sports RPF
- 00:45:28 - The specific allure of Hockey RPF
- 00:53:54 - Getting into Football RPF and Carraville
- 01:11:07 - Carraville fic, start of “Zombies” discussion, and Julien’s real-life plot inspiration
- 01:20:04 - Excerpt 1, from “Zombies”
- 01:39:12 - Strategy and instinct of switching POV’s
- 01:59:50 - “The Victorian Era”
- 02:06:13 - Excerpt 2, from “The Victorian Era” (apologies from Sara for the botched English accents)
- 02:23:17 - Cat cameo by Daniel Pickles - and the theme of power in “The Victorian Era”, Gary and Victoria’s friendship, and writing moments that “show” instead of “tell”.
- 02:32:27 - The fun of writing about “bad people”, and recurring themes popping up in our works; AND the specific joys of fanfiction enriching “real life”
- 02:40:36 - “Tasting Syrup On My Tongue”
- 02:50:45 - The joy of Stevie G and Scholsey in Carraville fics
- 03:00:46 - Sara’s childhood soccer experience
- 03:02:49- Rapid Fire Questions!!!
- 03:17:21 - Michael Owen Quotes
- 03:31:00 - Coffee Shop Scenario
- 03:37:32 - Julien’s fic recs
- 03:43:11 - Final question- “What do you think it is about sport that lends itself to fiction and fanfiction?”
Episode References
- FIC - ‘These zombies in the park, they're looking for my heart’ by HeyJulien
- FIC - 'The Victorian Era' by HeyJulien
- FIC - ‘Tasting Syrup On My Tongue’ by HeyJulien
- https://www.fanfiktion.de/ - Julien’s first fanfic site!
- CBS Champions League Today "Best Of" - Youtube video, example of CBS crew compilation, ft. Jamie Carragher, Micah Richards, Thierry Henry, and Kate Abdo
- "Gary Neville & Jamie Carragher's BEST moments! 👀🍿" - Youtube video that Julien sent Sara to kick off the Carraville spiral
- Gary Neville’s interview with Jamie Carragher on The Overlap - Youtube
- "Neville and Carra - the perfect TV double act make their Monday Night Football debut" - Daily Mail article from August 2013, describing Jamie’s MNF debut alongside Gary.
- And another 2013 article, this one from Stretty News on the Carraville punditry duo, described as “a dream pair”.
- ‘Tasting Syrup’ reference - Footage of John Terry head injury in the 2007 League Cup Final, Chelsea v Arsenal - Youtube
- ‘Tasting Syrup’ reference - Footage of Jamie Carragher head injury in a match against Arsenal in April 2011
- Fanart - Man United v Liverpool lineup as envisioned by the genius k-ky - tumblr link
- Article - "Bastian Schweinsteiger dragged the modern Germany to ultimate glory with blood, sweat and tears" - on Schweinsteiger’s heroic and gritty performance in the 2014 World Cup Final (October 2019)
- Some more brilliant Michael Owen quotes (unverified but highly entertaining)
- Julien rec - Sara's fic, [the gap between crack and thunder] WIP!
- Julien rec - Take a Chance on Me by saltstreets, yvenger (Ao3, locked)
- Julien rec - keep your silver, give me that gold by thesecretdetectivecollection (Ao3)
- Julien rec - Gary Neville is Still a Red, Just a Different Shade by fanficburner (Ao3)
- Julien rec - Quell the Tide by Imnotreallyhereatall - the hockey RPF julien mentions loving (Ao3, locked)