<p>Evan welcomes Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry, co-founders of 'Been There Got Out,' and acclaimed authors of the must-read book on navigating toxic relationships and high-conflict divorces. Their conversation delves deep into the indicators of toxic relationships, emphasizing the often-hidden nature of emotional and financial abuse. Lisa shares her personal story of living in an abusive relationship for two decades, highlighting the difficulty in recognizing and admitting to being in such a situation. Both Lisa and Chris discuss the concept of coercive control, explaining its detrimental impact on relationship dynamics and emphasizing the importance of conflict in healthy interactions. The discussion also covers the strategies for handling high-conflict co-parenting situations, underscoring the necessity of detailed and enforceable parenting plans to mitigate post-divorce manipulation. Finally, they touch upon the pervasive issue of legal abuse in the court system and share insights into navigating such challenges, including the empowerment found in self-representation and the importance of focusing on recovery and support.</p><p>More at <a href="https://beentheregotout.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><span data-auto-link="true" data-href="https://beentheregotout.com/">https://beentheregotout.com/</span></a></p><p>Topics:</p><div><span >02:09 Drake's Generosity: Paying for a Fan's Divorce</span><br></div><div>04:07 Polyamory and Young Divorces</div><div>06:50 High-Impact Couples Therapy: A 16-Hour Fix?</div><div>11:19 Ask Evan: Navigating Finances in Divorce</div><div>13:32 High Conflict Divorce Coaching with Lisa Johnson and Chris Barry</div><div>25:16 Understanding and Combating Legal Abuse</div><div>31:45 Navigating Divorce with Legal and Emotional Support</div><div>32:20 The Strategy of Building a Paper Trail in Divorce</div><div>33:46 The Journey to Self-Representation and Victory</div><div>34:37 The Challenges and Strategies of Going Pro Se</div><div>37:26 Supporting Friends in Toxic Relationships</div><div>41:06 Empowering Survivors Through Shared Experiences</div><div>44:34 Advice for Navigating High-Conflict Divorces</div><div>49:26 Reflecting on Personal Growth and Professional Evolution</div><div>53:54 Engaging with the Community: They Said It Segment</div>