109. Chat with Sue McLeod: “It’s not just information, it’s actually experience…”


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Mar 04 2025 58 mins   8

Lindsey and Donte chat with Sue McLeod, a giant in the online ceramics education world. There’s talk of transitioning to full time ceramic work, creating a marketing approach that meets your needs, and how non science majors can experience an inviting approach to glaze chemistry. Donte also finally gets to ask Sue his burning questions about iron oxide…


There’s talk of how Ben got into clay and podcasting, how he’s made his career work for his mental and financial health, and why it’s important to “look at the footnotes”.


What has your exposure been to glaze chemistry? Are you good to go with what you have, or are you still looking to scratch that itch?


Follow Sue and her work:

  • Website and Blog: suemcleodceramics.com
  • Youtube, Instagram, and Facebook: @suemcleodceramics
  • Understanding Glazes with Sue Facebook Group: facebook.com/groups/UnderstandingGlazes/


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About Your Hosts


Lindsey M Dillon is an award-winning professional ceramic artist who makes mugs and creature sculptures inspired by history, folklore, and geek culture. They have been working in clay since 2007, and doing so professionally since 2014. Their supernatural powers haven't manifested yet, but it's ok, they’ll wait.


Donte of Earth Nation Ceramics is a professional ceramic artist and Youtuber with over 100k artists in his community, all helping each other grow through their ceramic art journey one step at a time. He also has a massive addiction to boba milk tea and anime.



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