Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire with Shadeen Francis (260)


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Mar 10 2025 65 mins   63

Desire is a liberating force


Dr. Ann Kelley and Shadeen Francis, LMFT unpack the intricate nature of desire, extending beyond just the sexual realm. They unpack the challenges in identifying true desires, the role of embodiment in self-awareness, and the key distinction between wanting and liking. Together they discuss intimacy, self-discovery and communication – with an emphasis on the need for negotiation and authentic connection in sexual experiences.



“The simplest of all luxuries is the freedom to pursue your pleasure.” – Shadeen Francis



Time Stamps for Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire

05:15 The challenge of identifying desire

17:58 The nuances of wanting vs. liking

25:01 Desire in sexual contexts

35:07 Negotiating wants in relationships

44:41 The impact of technology on desire

56:30 Desire as a tool for liberation


About our Guest – Shadeen Francis, LMFT, CST

Shadeen Francis is a licensed marriage and family psychotherapist and a board-certified sex therapist. Her expertise spans the domains of mental health, emotional intelligence, and the intersection of sexual wellness and social justice. A sought-after voice in her field, Shadeen has been featured on major networks including ABC, NBC, and CBS, and has been the subject matter expert for prominent brands such as Essence, Bumble, Tinder, and Teen Vogue. Shadeen’s work extends beyond the therapy room, influencing nationally implemented curricula, global media strategies, and public health policies. Known for her signature brand of warmth and humor, Shadeen’s work is inspired by her commitment to helping people live lives full of peace and pleasure.


Resources for Beyond Sex: Understanding Desire

shadeenfrancis.com – Shadeen’s website, resources, and other information


[email protected] – The best way to contact Shadeen


@shadeenfrancis – Shadeen’s Instagram handle





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