Mar 13 2025 69 mins
Andrew and Sean talk about the high robotics team Andrew mentors, choosing to delay the MetaMonster launch, hiring updates from Miscreants, and muse on the pros and cons of adding a custom prompts feature to MetaMonster.
Links:
- Andrew’s Twitter: @AndrewAskins
- Andrew's website: https://www.andrewaskins.com/
- MetaMonster: https://metamonster.ai/
- Sean’s Twitter: @seanqsun
- Miscreants: http://miscreants.com/
- Sean's website: https://seanqsun.com/
- Stacked cookbook: https://www.amazon.com/Stacked-Perfect-Sandwich-Owen-Han/dp/0063330652
For more information about the podcast, check out https://www.smalleffortspod.com/.
Transcript:
00:00:00.85
Sean
Yo, yo.
00:00:02.06
Andrew
Yo!
00:00:03.42
Sean
How was...
00:00:03.58
Andrew
How are you?
00:00:04.54
Sean
I'm good. I'm tired. I'm good. I'm gonna hop in on a flight to New Orleans. New Orleans.
00:00:13.79
Andrew
Nolens?
00:00:13.76
Sean
Next. New Orleans in 48 hours.
00:00:17.25
Andrew
Sick. I am so fucking jealous you're going to microconf before me, but I'll make it there one of these days. It'll happen.
00:00:24.46
Sean
Next year.
00:00:24.73
Andrew
Although, I guess if I keep doing robotics and it's always during robotics season, then maybe I won't ever make it.
00:00:29.86
Sean
Yeah, that's...
00:00:30.05
Andrew
I could go to the Europe one.
00:00:31.77
Sean
Yeah. yeah
00:00:32.79
Andrew
That would make no sense. That would be so much more expensive.
00:00:35.73
Sean
and But don't they have like... Oh, so Rob Walling. Rob Walling. Rob Walling. But...
00:00:41.58
Andrew
Hey, Rob.
00:00:42.78
Sean
Hey, Rob. Don't they have a... Do they only have a Europe and Americas one? For some reason I felt like they
00:00:50.68
Andrew
Yeah, I think they just have two.
00:00:51.62
Sean
Okay. Okay. Cool. Cool. Cool.
00:00:54.88
Andrew
Two per year.
00:00:56.38
Sean
I'm excited. and
00:01:00.18
Sean
I don't know what to expect. I feel like this is the only time I've been to a conference that wasn't a security conference.
00:01:01.88
Andrew
Mm-hmm.
00:01:05.52
Sean
So I'm like a little bit nervous about it.
00:01:06.35
Andrew
Whoa, yeah.
00:01:08.86
Sean
Yeah.
00:01:09.38
Andrew
You're not going trying to get work. You're just trying to meet people and learn and have a good time.
00:01:12.04
Sean
Yeah.
00:01:16.25
Sean
I know. That feels so wrong. Yeah,
00:01:18.70
Andrew
Yeah, they've that's like not Sean at all. how Sean going somewhere and not trying to make money?
00:01:22.02
Sean
hu
00:01:24.87
Andrew
What? What?
00:01:27.47
Sean
yeah I don't know what I'm supposed to do. Make friends is crazy.
00:01:35.75
Sean
yeah and Yeah, no, I, and then, and then, and then I'm going to RSA.
00:01:41.10
Sean
in well one month right after that so i'll be back to my normal self afterwards
00:01:47.39
Andrew
Gotcha. How many conferences are you going to be at this year?
00:01:54.19
Sean
like three just rsa black hat i mean you have to if if like i count rsa and b-sides as one conference and oh shit yeah you're right oh no what going i think i think i might
00:01:51.71
Andrew
Total. By the end of the year, you think?
00:01:56.20
Andrew
No.
00:02:00.94
Andrew
Weren't you just at ShmooCon and like... Did you go DistrictCon?
00:02:10.09
Sean
try to sneak into ChinaCon.
00:02:12.74
Andrew
Oh.
00:02:13.42
Sean
Small conference for like to talk about like like Chinese APTs and all that stuff.
00:02:13.82
Andrew
What's ChinaCon?
00:02:20.27
Andrew
Hmm, neat.
00:02:20.38
Sean
Anyway, yeah.
00:02:23.04
Andrew
Are you gonna go to any of the, we have like multiple clients who are throwing their own conferences this year. Are you gonna go to any of those?
00:02:28.75
Sean
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You are reminding me of all the travel that is... You know, I don't think about these things until, like... I didn't book my travel... I didn't book my plane ticket for MicroConf until two nights ago.
00:02:41.70
Sean
Because...
00:02:43.10
Andrew
It sounds like someone who has disposable income.
00:02:43.84
Sean
Yeah,
00:02:47.87
Andrew
Someone who has has a business card they can put things on.
00:02:48.36
Sean
that's weird.
00:02:51.51
Andrew
and
00:02:51.75
Sean
That's true. That's true. The $100 difference doesn't make a that make good significant difference, I guess. Well, after taxes are involved.
00:02:57.64
Andrew
Yeah.
00:02:59.44
Sean
Speaking of which, my taxes are horrendous this year. Oh, yeah.
00:03:02.01
Andrew
Oh, fuck. Mine are going to be terrible, too, because I didn't pay any like estimated taxes last year.
00:03:06.33
Sean
Yeah. yeah
00:03:09.78
Andrew
Do you have a good accountant? and
00:03:12.42
Sean
we just got a new accountant or we stopped working with our previous one because like well he stopped working with us i think we outgrew sort of all the services...