Jul 10 2024 69 mins 1
Andrew Kirsch, a former intelligence officer with the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), shares his journey from finance to espionage and the challenges of transitioning into a career in intelligence. He discusses the meaning and purpose behind his decision and provides insights into the recruitment process, what it's like to live a hidden double life, including the polygraph test and the impact this life had on his personal and family life.
The conversation delves into the challenges of maintaining honesty and authenticity while working in a covert government role. It explores the impact on personal relationships, the psychological toll of secrecy, and the strategies used to navigate the complexities of the job. The themes of honesty, secrecy, and the psychological impact of covert work are central to the discussion.
The conversation covers Andrew Kirsch's experiences in the field of intelligence and security, including surveillance, undercover operations, and managing high-stakes situations. It delves into the challenges, decision-making, and interpersonal dynamics involved in covert operations, as well as the psychological and emotional impact on the individuals involved.
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Chapters
[00:00] Andrew's Life and Journey into CSIS and the Life of a Spy
[03:00] Post 9/11 World and The Call to Service
[08:30] Intelligence Officer Recruitment Process
[14:00] What is the Polygraph Test? How Do Spies Work With It?
[20:00] Personal Impact: Family and Relationships in Espionage
[25:14] The Challenge of Honesty in Covert Work
[30:17] Navigating Secrecy and Authenticity
[37:34] The Psychological Toll of Covert Operations
[01:06:35] Managing Tensions and Resentment Within the Team
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