The Small Business Administration was supposed to release detailed information about who got hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer-backed PPP loans. But at a hearing yesterday, Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said it’s “confidential information.” We’re going to talk a lot about the shredding of norms on today’s show … if Kai’s recording setup can make it through the end of the taping. As always, you can find a list of everything we talked about today (including Kai’s “room rating”) on our episode page at makemesmart.org