Jul 18 2022 120 mins 3
In this episode, the two Abdullahs are back together to review Farid's response to our "Epileptic Prophet" series. We decided to respond because Farid was manipulating our videos by editing them to create the impression that we were ill-informed on the topic and that we were misleading our audience.
Abdullah Gondal and I took our time to go through Farid's claims and pointed out how he was manipulating our videos. We showed how he was editing out explanations, twisting our words, and outright lying just to make it seem like he had countered the arguments we had raised. We even replayed our original videos to show Farid's bad faith rebuttals and hypocrisy.
This was a fun-filled episode as we exposed the intellectual dishonesty and manipulative ways of the Dawah people. I invite you to take a listen!
YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/beoT5YxeBdo
Timestamps:
0:00 Introductions.
5:26 Do people care about facts or do they just defend their faith no matter what the evidence shows?
6:30 Debunking Lie #1 - Secondary sources are useless. Understanding basic research methodologies.
12:15 Debunking Lie #2 - Conflating historical sources with Islamic sources.
17:42 Are hadith primary sources by historical standards?
20:00 Debunking Lie #3 - Gondal was not showing the hadith he used to build his argument?
24:00 Debunking Lie #4 - Gondal only produced 1 primary source. Tabrani is a primary source?
30:44 Did Gondal mislead people about repeating sources?
34:40 Debunking Lie #5 - Weak hadith? Stop lying and distorting.
43:55 Debunking Lie #6 - Islam web lie. Farid dishonestly hides some of the slides to create a wrong narrative.
48:30 Nuances in hadith authenticity and acceptance
53:58 Debunking Lie #7 - Who is Dede?
1:01:55 Debunking Lie #8 - Hiding experts
1:02:36 Debunking Lie #9 - Burahaa does not mean paroxysm? Farid seems not to understand what synonyms are and how they work
1:11:42 Debunking Lie #10 – Hiding the scholars’ translations.
1:19:36 Debunking Lie #11 - Hiding alternative translations for the word paroxysm.
1:25:40 Comments from the live chat - What motivates the two Abdullahs to keep working on counter-apologetics.
1:29:40 Debunking Lie #12 - Karb = Pain? Farid misses the point on synonyms.
1:37:23 Debunking Lie #13 - Almaany dictionary is unreliable?
1:42:24 Debunking Lie #14 - Sun rising back hadith is Sahih?!
1:47:45 Debunking Lie #15 - Why act all surprised about the sun rising again when you already accept that the sun stopped and the moon was split?
1:48:59 Summary of the stream.
1:54:00 Comments from the live chat.
1:58:02 Final remarks
Abdullah Gondal and I took our time to go through Farid's claims and pointed out how he was manipulating our videos. We showed how he was editing out explanations, twisting our words, and outright lying just to make it seem like he had countered the arguments we had raised. We even replayed our original videos to show Farid's bad faith rebuttals and hypocrisy.
This was a fun-filled episode as we exposed the intellectual dishonesty and manipulative ways of the Dawah people. I invite you to take a listen!
YouTube version of this podcast: https://youtu.be/beoT5YxeBdo
Timestamps:
0:00 Introductions.
5:26 Do people care about facts or do they just defend their faith no matter what the evidence shows?
6:30 Debunking Lie #1 - Secondary sources are useless. Understanding basic research methodologies.
12:15 Debunking Lie #2 - Conflating historical sources with Islamic sources.
17:42 Are hadith primary sources by historical standards?
20:00 Debunking Lie #3 - Gondal was not showing the hadith he used to build his argument?
24:00 Debunking Lie #4 - Gondal only produced 1 primary source. Tabrani is a primary source?
30:44 Did Gondal mislead people about repeating sources?
34:40 Debunking Lie #5 - Weak hadith? Stop lying and distorting.
43:55 Debunking Lie #6 - Islam web lie. Farid dishonestly hides some of the slides to create a wrong narrative.
48:30 Nuances in hadith authenticity and acceptance
53:58 Debunking Lie #7 - Who is Dede?
1:01:55 Debunking Lie #8 - Hiding experts
1:02:36 Debunking Lie #9 - Burahaa does not mean paroxysm? Farid seems not to understand what synonyms are and how they work
1:11:42 Debunking Lie #10 – Hiding the scholars’ translations.
1:19:36 Debunking Lie #11 - Hiding alternative translations for the word paroxysm.
1:25:40 Comments from the live chat - What motivates the two Abdullahs to keep working on counter-apologetics.
1:29:40 Debunking Lie #12 - Karb = Pain? Farid misses the point on synonyms.
1:37:23 Debunking Lie #13 - Almaany dictionary is unreliable?
1:42:24 Debunking Lie #14 - Sun rising back hadith is Sahih?!
1:47:45 Debunking Lie #15 - Why act all surprised about the sun rising again when you already accept that the sun stopped and the moon was split?
1:48:59 Summary of the stream.
1:54:00 Comments from the live chat.
1:58:02 Final remarks
