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From Toughen Up to Open Up: A Conversation with Marine-Turned-Farrier Jake Ogren


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Feb 04 2025 32 mins  
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I'm honored to welcome a special guest, former Marine Jake Ogren, onto the podcast today!

Jake is a husband, dad, and former Marine who chose to serve after 9/11 happened. After doing multiple tours in 12 years, he left the U.S. Marine Corps and has been shoeing horses for 10 years now. He's a good friend of ours and our horse's farrier, and since I've known him, we've had MANY conversations surrounding the topics of mental health, trauma, and taking care of ourselves. Basically, we're solving all of the world's problems in the horse barn! 

In today's episode, we're talking about what it looks like to go from toughen up to open up. Jake and I discuss the very well-known stigma in the ranching and ag space that is "toughen up and rub some dirt on it," as well as getting personalized support for YOUR mental health needs. 

In this episode, we cover:

  • Jake's journey of joining the Marines Corps + what eventually led him to seek therapy for his mental health
  • The all-too-common stigma of "toughen up and rub some dirt on it" in the ranching & ag community
  • The importance of getting support for YOUR specific mental health needs + finding the right person to talk to
  • Jake's advice for seeking help when you're hesitant to do so
  • How therapy has impacted Jake in multiple areas of his life
  • Common misconceptions about mental health in rural America

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