Joseph discussed the effectiveness of the 12-step program for long-term sobriety, emphasizing its holistic approach to addressing the mind, body, and spirit. He highlighted the importance of setting boundaries with loved ones who attend meetings however are not participating in the program. Joseph also drew parallels between the 12-step program and other self-improvement efforts, such as weight loss and exercise, emphasizing the need for continuous nurturing and engagement to maintain progress. Lastly, Joseph encouraged listeners to engage with a twelve-step program or reach out to him for guidance on personal change and growth.