Apr 01 2025 58 mins 2
In this episode of Corporate Treasury 101, we discuss the intricacies of operating a treasury function in China, one of the most highly regulated and misunderstood markets in the world. Damian Glendinning, former Group Treasurer of Lenovo and founder of Complex Countries, helps us unpack the challenges of treasury management in China, from regulatory ambiguity to the unique roles of Alipay and WeChat Pay. We cover how foreign companies can navigate this distinct financial landscape, including legal workarounds like entrustment loans, limitations around cross-border flows, and the impact of China’s evolving global strategy.
Damian shares insights from decades of hands-on experience, having led treasury operations in China during his time at IBM and Lenovo. He offers a nuanced, practical perspective on how treasurers can operate effectively in a market where the rules are complex and constantly changing.
What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- How China’s banking sector transitioned from state-run distribution to commercial banking
- Why are regulations in China often interpreted and enforced in flexible ways
- How companies navigate cash pooling with tools like entrustment loans
- The rise of tech giants like Alipay and WeChat Pay in filling banking gaps
- What treasurers need to know about China’s efforts to reduce reliance on USD and SWIFT
Episode Breakdown with Timestamps
[00:00] – Introduction & AFP Certification Promo
[01:50] – Why China Is a Focus for Corporate Treasurers
[03:19] – Misconceptions About China’s Culture and Structure
[15:31] – Evolution of the Banking System: State to Commercial
[20:56] – WeChat Pay, Alipay & Financial Innovation
[28:02] – Foreign Companies and Banking Limitations
[33:41] – Entrustment Loans & Cash Pooling Workarounds
[46:02] – Cross-Border Lending and Capital Flows
[49:58] – Renminbi, SWIFT, and De-Dollarization Strategies
[56:26] – The Bigger Picture: Global Integration vs. Isolation
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