The Allplane Podcast #100 - Mark Hiller, CEO of leading aircraft seat maker RECARO


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Sep 13 2023

Mark Hiller is the CEO of RECARO Holding and RECARO Aircraft Seating.

Germany-based RECARO is one of the world’s leading manufacturers of aircraft seats.

Although RECARO is present in, pretty much all segments of the market, its position is particularly strong in low cost and hybrid airlines, where it gets close to a third of the market worldwide.

Yes, you read that right!…roughly one of every three seats in this segment of the airline industry are made by this family-owned company headquartered in the picturesque town of Schwäbisch-Hall the southwest of Germany! (although not all seats are made there, since RECARO has now factories in several other locations around the world).

So, few people know the aircraft seat market as well as Mark Hiller, RECARO’s CEO, our guest today on the podcast.

In this episode, done in partnership with RECARO, we explore not just the fascinating story of the company, that started making chassis for Porsche sports cars, but will also review the current state of the aircraft seating industry and its main trends.

We also have some time, of course, to discuss some of the most original aircraft seat concepts that have been floated recently and their chances of becoming (or not!) a reality in the near future. Another topic that we touch upon is that of premium cabins (first, business and premium economy), an area in which RECARO has been investing significant resources and unveiling a whole range of innovative products lately.

Chances are that if your are reading this, you fly with certain regularity and, therefore, it is very, very likely you have spent time sitting on one of RECARO’s seats, so, I am sure this episode of the podcast will offer you a new perspective on the matter!


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Things we talk about in this episode

  • Mark’s professional background

  • The long and fascinating story of Recaro

  • What markets is Recaro active in

  • Recaro’s focus on economy class seats and how it has expanded its range to cover also business class and premium economy

  • How Recaro co-brands its seats with some airlines

  • How long are the aircraft seat design and procurement cycles

  • How Recaro develops new aircraft seat concepts

  • What are the main drivers of sustainability in the aircraft seat industry

  • Standing passengers, stacked seats and other ideas…How you can innovate in the aircraft seat industry while remaining within the bounds of what is feasible today

  • How is the aircraft seat industry preparing for the arrival of eVTOLs


Resources

Recaro Aircraft Seating

Recaro Group

The Porsche 356, one of the iconic cars that Recaro built chassis for (before the company specializes in making seats)

My 2021 piece for The Points Guy about the opening of Recaro’s new factory in Schwäbisch Hall

My post on the Places of Charm travel blog about the historical town of Schwäbisch Hall and about the nearby museum of German rural life

Trends in airline seating, my piece on Aerotime

Frontier Airlines & Alaska Airlines seats co-branded with Recaro

“Xtend” seat

Recaro’s acquisition of a Polish train seat manufacturer

Trains and planes in Europe, my piece for CNN on this

Podcast Music: Five Armies by Kevin MacLeod
Link: https://incompetech.filmmusic.io/song/3762-five-armies
License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/


Interview Transcript:

(please note that, although we strive to make it as close as possible to the original recording, the transcript may not be 100% accurate)