More MPE with Professor Ray Horton and Sandi Wright

In this episode of More MPE, hosts Ray Horton and Sandi Wright speak with Phoebe Boyer ’93, president and CEO of Children’s Aid — one of the oldest and largest of New York City’s nonprofit social welfare agencies.

Before joining Children’s Aid a decade ago, she spent 15 years in the foundation world giving money to nonprofits.

The way the foundation experience prepared Boyer for running a complicated organization is one of the topics discussed in the episode. She also discusses how her family and religion steered her toward a career in social enterprise; how misapplying some things she learned in Business School helped precipitate a crisis in her leadership of Children’s Aid; why she wanted to rebrand a highly successful social welfare agency and how she overcame the opposition; and finally, Boyer voices her concerns about the possible effects of the Trump presidency on the work of Children’s Aid.

Mentioned in this Episode

• Phoebe Boyer ’93

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More MPE is co-hosted by Sandi Wright and produced by The Podcast Consultant. Special thanks to executive producer Hannah Slow and student producers Sofia Martins '26 and Dominica Wambold '26.

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