Vermont's own Pat Berry returns to the Podcast, this time to discuss his role as new CEO of the non-profit Backcountry Hunters & Anglers. As a comparatively young non-profit, BHA has garnered great support from sportspeople in its efforts to fight for access, conservation, and sound land management. Pat describes the org and what it does structurally while highlighting some key initiatives. He and Reid also explore the future of hunting, angling, and public lands in the US.