20VC: Selling Drift for $1.2BN is the Biggest Failure: What No One Tells You About Selling Your Company | Why Incumbents Are Slower & Worse Than Ever | Why the Most Valuable Companies in a World of AI Will Not Have More Than 100 People with Elias Torres


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Mar 21 2025 67 mins   94

Elias Torres is the Co-Founder and CEO of Agency, the AI agent for customer success teams. Prior to Agency, Elias was the Co-Founder of Drift, a company he sold to Vista for $1.2BN Before that he started Performable, which he sold to Hubspot.

In Today’s Episode We Discuss:

03:50 Do Rich Founders Make Better Founders: How Backgrounds Shape You

06:23 Speed: Why are Incumbents Slower than Ever

10:00 Quality: Why are Incumbents Worse than Ever

25:34 Why Was Selling Drift For $1.2BN a Massive Failure

33:30 How Did a Cushy Culture Kill Drift

37:01 What They Never Tell You About Selling for $1.2BN

41:08 How to Hire F******* Rockstars

46:52 The Biggest Mistakes Founders Make in Hiring

54:52 Everything You Think You Know About Working Parents is Wrong

01:02:00 Quickfire