Episode 94: Elizabeth Fremantle (Disobedient)


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Mar 24 2024 43 mins  

Charlie and Elizabeth Fremantle (Disobedient) discuss the formative life, and Elizabeth's fictionalisation, of Artemisia Gentileschi, a woman painter from the 17th century.

Please note that there are many mentions of rape in this episode, and there is also a mention of animal death.

The previous episodes with Elizabeth are episode 7 and episode 70
The exhibition at The National Gallery
Judith Slaying Holofernes
Caravaggio's Judith Beheading Holofernes
Mary D Garrard's Artemisia Gentileschi
Elizabeth's Queen's Gambit
Firebrand

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Where to find Charlie online

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Discussions

01:18 Why Artemisia, and the general inspiration for the book
04:40 Elizabeth talks about Artemisia's work in general, as well as her success in her lifetime
10:58 How much does your fictionalisation of Orazio Gentileschi align with what's known?
15:14 Where Artemisia worked on her father's paintings
16:47 The Stiatessi family and what we know about Artemisia's husband
20:12 About Zita, real name Tuzia
22:49 The fragments of translations in the book - listen in for some interesting facts!
25:56 The use of laundry and light coming through the laundry lines
28:21 The Nightingale (Ovid's Metamorphoses' Philomel and Procne)
31:19 About Beatrice Cenci and Elizabeth's next book
35:28 Asking Elizabeth about what Charlie feels is her defining element - her honing in to one or two specific elements - and how she may continue in this vein in future
40:42 Lola the dog, who is mentioned at the start of the novel
41:29 Release dates for Firebrand, the film of Queen's Gambit

Photo credit: JP Masclet.