May 23 2022 65 mins 24
Stand up comedian Alyce Chan joins Betsy and guest co-host Alisha Gaddis (Your House Keys are in the Dryer: A Parenting Haiku Book) to talk about putting the oxygen mask on yourself first and feeling guilty about it, getting COVID but still having to do everything for everyone, and watching your kid exorcise family stress by howling like a wolf.
