what was brat??? | Charli XCX Discussion + Analysis (w/ Harper Thomson)


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🎧 This week on "I’ve Been Meaning to Listen To That", we review "brat" by Charli XCX with special guest Harper Thomson! 🟩

🎤 Co-Hosts: Andrew Ambrose Lee, Michael Limentato, Stenley Philippe, Harper Thomson 🎙

🔑 Key Topics:


• What is brat? Were the hosts of this lovely podcast enjoying a brat summer, or were they on the outside looking in? Is there a less "grandma" way to ask these questions?


• Did the "Kamala IS Brat" tweet cost us the election?


• The recurring themes of mirrors and cameras in songs like “Apple,” “360,” and “I Might Say Something Stupid”—how they reveal self-perception through others’ eyes.


• Does Charli XCX's half-Asian heritage add a new layer of meaning to the song "Apple?"


• Plus, Michael announces his retirement from the podcast by reading a poem from former Charli XCX collaborator Iggy Azaelea!


Don’t miss this deep dive into Charli XCX’s brat! 🍏




TIMESTAMPS


0:00 cold open


0:56 theme song


1:35 introduction + Michael’s retirement announcement


7:00 preconceived notions of Charli XCX


19:23 were we having a brat summer?


23:26 what is Brat?


24:52 themes


43:17 highlights


1:05:15 lowlights


1:09:40 stray observations


1:17:41 final thoughts and ratings


1:20:46 goodbye Michael




SOURCES:


It’s Charli XCX’s world and we’re just living in it: a timeline of ‘Brat’ summer so far by NME


https://www.nme.com/features/music-features/charli-xcx-brat-summer-timeline-highs-lows-3777880


What to know about 'brat summer,' the trend taking over pop culture and politics


https://www.today.com/popculture/music/what-is-brat-summer-charli-xcx-rcna163061


“Brat and it’s completely different but also still brat” Pitchfork Review by Shaad D’Souza


https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/charli-xcx-brat-and-its-completely-different-but-also-still-brat/


“Brat” Pitchfork Review By Meaghan Garvey


https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/charli-xcx-brat/


Tasteless Masterpiece- “Brat” by Charli XCX by @Professorskye


https://youtu.be/Ao_l602Wn2o?si=Rhk76ghe2nUknjq_


Kanye is the most successful Performance Artist of All Time: A Professor Skye Video Essay


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9UPkb9508c&t=370s


Charli XCX Brat review by Dakota West Foss


https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/88675/Charli-XCX-Brat/


Charli xcx: The BRAT Interview | Apple Music


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgBMFg7ZgJw&t=2674s


Charli XCX 'BRAT' Confessions While Taking You Through A Day In Her Life | Billboard Cover


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3bTe5YUgc4


‘BRAT’ UNFILTERED: CHARLI XCX ON HOW SHE STOLE THE SUMMER (AND WORKED IT OUT WITH LORDE ON THE REMIX) by Kristin Robinson


https://www.billboard.com/music/pop/charli-xcx-brat-billboard-cover-story-interview-1235732025/


Creature From the Brat Lagoon by Brock Colyar


https://www.vulture.com/article/charli-xcx-interview-brat-summer-fall-kamala-harris.html




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