This episode features Philip Arnold, PhD, Associate Professor and Chair of the Department of Religion at Syracuse University, Director of the Skä·noñh—Great Law of Peace Center, and President of the Indigenous Values Initiative. He is interviewed by John Grim, PhD, co-founder and co-director of the Yale Forum on Religion and Ecology. They talk about many facets of Phil’s work, especially in light of his new book, The Urgency of Indigenous Values (Syracuse University Press, 2023).