John Barrand - Modernizing Performance Management in the Public Sector


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John Barrand, Chief HR Officer for the State of Utah, joins us this episode to discuss the unique challenge of modernizing performance management in the public sector.


[0:00] Introduction

  • Welcome, John!
  • Today’s Topic: Modernizing Performance Management in the Public Sector

[8:18] What are the key differences between public and private sector HR?

  • Comparing HR practices across sectors
  • Transparency in the private versus public organizations

[14:48] How do HR processes differ in public vs. private organizations?

  • A case study in public sector performance management
  • Strategies for improving public sector compensation
  • Building support for performance management among leaders and managers

[33:58] How to present data-driven plans to public sector stakeholders

  • Driving employee satisfaction and attracting new talent
  • Benefits of transparent and productive HR conversations

[40:26] Closing

  • Thanks for listening!


Quick Quote

“[The public sector] is seeing [employee satisfaction] upticks that are outpacing private sector organizations . . . people are hearing that if you’re a good performer, there’s a place for you [in the public sector].”


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