Jan 15 2025 59 mins
In this episode of the Courageous Leaders Podcast, I speak with Rob Doubal and Laurence (Lolly) Thomson, Global CCOs at M&C Saatchi.
With 17 years of collaboration, they share lessons on leadership, creativity, and adaptability, from their McCann days to leading at M&C Saatchi.
We dive into embracing risk, building strong team dynamics, and unlocking the value of creative leadership. If you're a leader or creative looking to grow, this episode is full of valuable insights.
We Cover:
05:55 - How setbacks can lead to exciting opportunities
11:14 - The importance of adaptable leadership and adjusting styles for different jobs
13:14 - Fostering environments where ideas thrive and innovation leads the way
16:13 - How creativity separates successful from unsuccessful businesses
18:15 - How to put Creativity at the Heart of the Agency
21:02 - Balancing Vulnerability and Creativity
24:16 - The key questions to ask in an interview
27:01 - How their strengths help solve problems faster and work efficiently
33:33 - Why successful teams need diverse perspectives and shared goals
35:25 - The learning from working with multiple CEO's
36:32 - Understanding the value of different leadership styles.
39:49 - How effective leadership balances motivation, organisation, and pressure.
45:30 - Recognising that big change takes time, while managing the urge to dive in immediately
50:52 - Keep Learning and Keep breaking
55:48 - Explaining Risk: A simple yet powerful ‘puddle’ metaphor for Leadership
Don’t miss out on this powerful episode.
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