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May 30 2023 45 mins  

In this episode Jennifer speaks with author, teacher and trans-public intellectual Báyò Akómoláfé about what’s revealed when we become lost and bewildered. Through story, myth and examples of ecological errancy, Báyò encourages us to stay with the trouble.

With laughter and curiosity they explore—

  • How to cultivate “lostness” in a world that privileges certainty
  • The limits of inclusivity politics
  • Why hiding is a courageous act of refusal
  • How we’re transformed by spontaneous acts of creativity

Tune in for an intimate and rich conversation about how we navigate separation and belonging in an entangled universe where bewilderment becomes a living portal of possibility

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Gratitude for this show’s theme song Inside the House, composed by the talented Yukon musician, multi-instrumentalist and sound artist Jordy Walker. Artwork by the imaginative writer, filmmaker and artist Jon Marro.