Mar 19 2025 49 mins
What happens when a business interview transforms into a soul-nourishing conversation about life's most challenging transitions? Michelle Smock sits down with Davonna Saier of Davonna INClusive for what quickly becomes an intimate dialogue on navigating personal change, standing in your values, and finding strength during politically turbulent times.
This raw and unfiltered conversation opens with Michelle's candid disclosure about her separation and life changes. Rather than glossing over the hard parts, both women dive deep into how our current political climate affects our relationships, mental health, and business decisions. Together they explore what it means to honor your values even when it feels impossibly difficult.
"Exhaustion is not a status symbol," Davonna reminds us, challenging the hustle culture that permeates entrepreneurship. She shares practical wisdom through her "less and more" list – actionable shifts like padding time in your schedule, practicing gratitude before writing to-do lists, and creating intentional boundaries around social media consumption. Her mantra "relax, nothing is in control" offers a paradoxical comfort for uncertain times.
The conversation ventures into physical wellness too, with Davonna advocating for hormone testing and sharing how discovering her low testosterone levels transformed her quality of life. Both women discuss the importance of finding supportive communities like Small Business Besties, where vulnerability is welcomed and authentic connections flourish.
Whether you're navigating a major life transition, feeling the weight of our political climate, or simply seeking permission to prioritize your wellbeing, this episode reminds you that you're not alone. As Michelle says, "the whole point of Small Business Besties was to provide an authentic space for women to connect" – and this episode delivers exactly that. Reach out if you need support – we're all in this together.
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/davonna-saier-56315228/
Check out Jessica Upchurch King's Gratitude materials here and her non-profit YOU ARE here which is what inspired the chatter about Uganda.
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