In this conversation, Stephen, Jesse, and Taylor engage with John Kirwin, who presents his views on the Mandela Effect and its implications for the Bible. They explore how cultural memory influences biblical interpretation, the statistical improbability of collective misremembering, and the theological ramifications of perceived changes in scripture. John shares his personal journey and the challenges he faced in reconciling his beliefs with the changes he observes in biblical texts. The discussion also touches on controversial passages and the role of the church in preserving scripture, ultimately questioning the integrity of the biblical text in light of these changes. In this conversation, John Kirwin discusses the changing nature of biblical texts, the implications of the Mandela Effect, and the relationship between God, the church, and scripture. He explores the idea of collective memory and how it relates to modern interpretations of the Bible. The discussion also delves into the role of CERN and the concept of multiverses, as well as the historical context of biblical prophecy and the importance of personal relationships with God. Kirwin emphasizes the need for spiritual discernment in understanding these changes and the current state of the world.