Mar 22 2025 24 mins
🎧 Episode Highlights
In this first installment of the [radically candid] podcast, Tim Rowe sits down with Carson Henry CEO @ [cognition] to talk about how a strategic pivot from competing with agencies has led to transformative ad tech for streaming TV advertising attribution.
⏱️ Quick Takeaways (2-min read)
- The Pivot: How Cognition originally aimed to disrupt agencies but instead became their technology partner
- The Discovery: 30% of search traffic should actually be attributed to video campaigns
- The Game-Changer: Pixel-based CTV attribution that shows exactly which traffic, sales, and conversions came from streaming TV
- The Scale Strategy: Finding one world-class partner per industry rather than many mediocre ones
🚀 Genesis & Pivot (03:15)
- Started in automotive retail, connecting with Amazon Ads
- Built automation tools for Amazon's ecosystem
- Key realization: "We solved more pain on the agency side than for dealerships"
- Pivoted to exclusive agency partnerships: "Where we were trying to dethrone them originally, now we were partnering with them"
🛠️ Key Technology Breakthroughs (07:00)
- Creative Suite: Zero to 60-second spots in an hour with real-time inventory
- Third-party ad server approval with Amazon DSP for dynamic creative updates
- Advanced attribution: Dropping cookies on CTV exposures to track the complete user journey
📊 The 30% Attribution Revelation (10:15)
"Roughly 30% of any search traffic is actually video, should be attributed to video."
- When viewers see a TV ad then search for the brand, traditional attribution gives all credit to search
- cognition's platform can identify and correct this misattribution
- Provides name-specific lead tracking from impression to conversion
🔍 The Ideal Partner Profile (15:00)
"If you want to do something that's not been done, and you're not afraid to do that, then you're probably a good fit."
- Agencies with "the spirit of innovation"
- Those ready to "go to battle" in a competitive space
- Partners who value truth and transparency in a "gold rush" environment
🤝 The Freewheel Partnership (17:45)
- Directly negotiates inventory deals with premium publishers (Disney+, ESPN+, Hulu, Roku)
- Overcomes minimum spend requirements that typically block smaller advertisers
- Enables custom-curated deals for specific agency clients
🔮 Looking Ahead (24:00)
- New UI/UX interface launching soon
- Focus on democratizing access to walled gardens
- Expansion beyond automotive into verticals with larger inventory feeds
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