Today's episode is a combination of 3 birth stories and then a chat with a fellow birth worker named Meagan Heaton, co-founder of The VBAC Link. She's going to share a little bit about her three births, which include two cesareans and one vaginal birth after two cesareans. Then we have a chat about vaginal birth after cesarean. This episode should be interesting and educational even if you are expecting your first baby and haven’t ever had a cesarean. The strategies and information you'll hear us chat about could help you ensure you’re hiring a medical care provider who is only going to intervene and do a cesarean if absolutely necessary. It’ll also help you think about questions you might want to ask as you’re hiring a care provider whether it’s your first time or you’ve had a cesarean and would like to VBAC. A lot of expectant or new parents have told me after having a cesarean they thought it’s “once a cesarean always a cesarean” for any subsequent births. But if someone has a cesarean, it’s evidence-based in the majority of cases to give that person a chance to give birth vaginally if they’d like to. So we’ll do some mythbusting on this today. We’ll also discuss some of the reasons why we don’t believe 39-week inductions that’ve been all the rage since 2018 due to the ARRIVE Trial are leading to fewer cesareans.