Nov 04 2020 38 mins
What's the meaning of football without live spectators? And how much is the experience of being in a crowd part of the joy of the game? Adrian and John are joined by Jon Berry, a Birmingham City sufferer and the author of two ace books, Hugging Strangers and Project Restart (both published by Pitch).
Presented by Adrian Goldberg and John Nicholson
Produced by Adrian Goldberg.