Abundance and Retrenchment—The Weekly Roundup


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Mar 21 2025 77 mins   180 2 1

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This week, Ron Steslow and Mike Madrid (author of The Latino Century) discuss ‘supply-side progressivism’ and Ezra Klein and Derrek Thompson’s new book Abundance, and what their vision for the progressive government looks like.


Then, we dive deeper into what the Trump team means when they say they are “detoxing” the economy, why and how they are remaking the world financial and security order, why it seems so chaotic, and the stakes of their approach.


Finally, we head to Politicology+ where we answer some of your excellent questions — including about Ruben Gallego, what winning the AI fight might look like, and what the hell Gavin Newsom is doing.



Segments this week:


(03:06) Abundance


(35:51) Retrenchment


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Related media:


Segment 1:

Reason - Lawn-sign liberalism vs. supply-side progressivism

NYT - Book Review: ‘Abundance,’ by Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson - The New York Times

The Kobeissi Letter - Housing Affordability Chart

The Kobeissi Letter - Mortgage Refinance Denial chart

The Free Press - How Democrats Failed American Cities


Segment 2:

All In - Scott Bessent Interview

NYT - Gillian Tett Discusses Donald Trump and the Economy


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